Written by: Pat Rogers
“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.” ― Thomas Pynchon
“Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers.” – Voltaire Evasion and Diversion as Manipulation Tactics: “Side-stepping and misleading: rather than being accountable and responsible.” This is what I have experienced and witnessed happening to at least one other person whom I know personally and I’m sure there’s more, who dare to ask the wrong questions to Jacob Prasch. I can speak only for my own questions and for those of M’Kayla’s since she has made them public been public. I have chosen to make mine public also so that all who read this can see for themselves the types of questions Jacob was bored with and considered unimportant. For those who may not know Tim Wirth, he is mentioned here only because he was the go between asking and taping the questions for Jacob. I will start with some statements from Tim to M’Kayla.
Tim Wirth’s comment on M’Kayla’s Korner blog …
“The question we keep coming back to my sister in the Lord is this-Where in the scriptures does it state that women can teach men doctrine? “That is the only issue. The issue is what does the scriptures teach and I’m still waiting for an answer to that) from anyone”
Tim Wirth also stated in an email to M’Kayla: “Sorry that you took the teaching personally we did not just address your situation because it would come off as a personal attack on you. It was not. It covered many other concerns and comments and the bottom line sis is that no one has been able to show me yet where women can teach doctrine to men. That gets dodged by everyone who has a concern.”
So, somehow it becomes all about Tim as he states “..no one has been able to show me..” Why are those asking questions to Jacob somehow suddenly accountable for answering questions that Tim is posing? Jacob and Tim determined to dismiss any and all other questions as if the questions were posed to dodge Tim’s all important question, as if all others hinged on it. Actually the questions below along with M’Kayla’s challenges the “doctrine” that is being taught by Jacob Prasch. The questions that were discarded ask for context, scripture and clarification of the doctrine that Jacob is teaching and what he says the scriptures say. I can dismiss Tim Wirth easily enough in all of this as he isn’t teaching anything, he’s just a go between. Jacob is the one that is accountable. Listed below are the questions that I submitted to Tim Wirth to ask Jacob, and then I will add a few more questions at the end and a final comment. PLEASE NOTE: these email questions were after the first and second videos. 1. “A Woman’s covering” and 2.”What can a woman teach at conference’s”, which are not attached to this article but easy enough to find. The video included with this article is Jacob Prasch’s last video in this series of his on the topic of women titled “Christian Women in Ministry”
My email questions: 5-18-16 I had mentioned this in a fb comment earlier, 2 John “The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;”….who was she, who were her “children”…. Thank you Tim Pat Second email: 5-30-16 Hi Tim, Wasn’t sure if this is where questions are taken; but I really didn’t want to ask it in the facebook group. Many times questions are viewed as attacks against or about the speaker or topic. Facebook’s a tough place to learn sometimes.
Anyway my question is; If a woman can be a prophetess to whom then is she prophesying to? Is she to prophesy to just women? Or men also? After all the junk of “personal prophesies” that I came out of I tend to lean toward a prophetic word being spoken more to the corporate body than individuals or just one group. Jacob speaks about this around the six-minute mark. Thanks and if this isn’t the proper place to ask this question I apologize and if you would let me know where to send it that would be great. God Bless Pat Third email: 7-4-16 Hi Tim, Wanted to add another question or two concerning the teaching Jacob did on a woman’s covering. He states in the video that you will never see an Esther without a Mordechai or a Deborah without a Barak. My questions are Deborah was Judge over Israel and Barak was the military leader, he became Judge after Deborah, so I’m confused on why he would be deemed as some type of “covering” for her. My second question or continuation of the first question is Deborah was married to Lapidoth, who would be her covering wouldn’t he? So how does Barak play into this? Also just so it doesn’t fall through the cracks, I want to include my original question on women prophesying and who are they prophesying to? mixed crowd or only women and if only women where is that? Happy 4th 😊 Thanks, God bless Pat
By not addressing these questions you bring more doubt and more scrutiny of these teachings and the last video showing your ignorant and rank behavior only adds to it. So let’s look at what you say in this final video, which leads to yet more questions for you to consider concerning this doctrine you teach. Minute mark 3:06 Jacob says “But no place in scripture do you see God usurping male authority.”
QUESTION: What of Barak, wouldn’t it be considered that God took the authority away from him when Deborah, who was speaking prophetically to Barak in Judges 4:9?
“ And she (Deborah) said, I will surely go with thee; notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honor; for the LORD shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.”
2:25 minute mark: Jacob says; I’m tired of these silly women wasting our time with their nonsense. It is simply the feminism of the secular world coming into the church.”
So asking ligament questions is feminism coming into the church? Tell me what question of mine sent to you by way of Tim Wirth, presented here, is of that nature?
:50 mark Jacob says: I’m absolutely exhausted re addressing the same subject. It’s become rather boring; I’m not going to pander to this nonsense anymore. Because I don’t believe it’s a constructive use of God’s time or the time of our listeners.” No question here on the above statement, just a comment. One would think that the confusion, lack of a correct interpretation of the scriptures (context, content….), no exegesis, cherry picked scriptures would be enough to at least challenge Jacob to take the time to revisit the scriptures in full context and do a correct study. You have created confusion and then call those who question your mishandling of scripture silly, feminist, wasting your time. This mess lays at your feet Jacob, it’s yours to clean up or let it linger; the longer you let it lay the more it will grow….you know, kind of like leaven.
These questions remain; concerning the material in the video’s mentioned here. Whether you dismiss them, ignore them and name call makes no difference in the fact they went unanswered by you. So I’m posting them publicly so that all can see they’re validity. Still waiting for you to answer these questions scripturally without it changing the doctrine you teach on women. Without twisting scripture, with good hermeneutics, no cherry picking allowed. You know “Ortho Tomeo” ….”Rightly dividing” the word.