Jacob Prasch answers my question, after all!

Jacob Prasch answers my question, after all!

By Pat Rogers

email: The question

Hi Tim, Wasn’t sure if this is where questions are taken; but I really didn’t want to ask it in the facebook group. Many times questions are viewed as attacks against or about the speaker or topic. Facebook’s a tough place to learn sometimes.

Anyway my question is;

If a woman can be a prophetess to whom then is she prophesying to? Is she to prophesy to just women? Or men also? After all the junk of “personal prophesies” that I came out of I tend to lean toward a prophetic word being spoken more to the corporate body than individuals or just one group. Jacob speaks about this around the six-minute mark. Thanks and if this isn’t the proper place to ask this question I apologize and if you would let me know where to send it that would be great.

God Bless

Pat

PROPHESY-The Definition:

To foretell or predict, by divine inspiration. To speak as a mediator between God and humankind or in God’s stead.

Archaic. To teach religious subjects.

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We see there are prophetesses, we see there are places where women did prophesy. The daughters of Philip were prophetesses, OBVIOUSLY they spoke in the congregation

So this just adds more questions concerning Jacob Prasch’s teachings. As he refused to address my questions and after the recent video “A Woman’s Covering” he never again, not once, mentions the fact that women prophesy (in the later 3 videos that he did on women). He dances all around it but won’t say it. He says women under certain conditions can give exhortations and on and on he goes but he won’t say a women can prophesy to the congregation. So it’s obvious that women prophesying and operating in one of the gifts, apparently goes against his doctrine that he teaches on women teachings men doctrine.

BUT he can say it when he is making the distinction of women keeping silent in the church in chapter 14, as he is in this video. So Jacob which is it? You simply can’t have it both ways. You’re literally speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You are wreaking havoc in the body of Christ and His Word.

9 thoughts on “Jacob Prasch answers my question, after all!

  1. It’s not hatred towards Jacob but it is hatred towards what he has done to the Word of God and his arrogance and anger in refusing to be questioned or called on it makes his error even more apparent. If you would please just take the time to study this out yourself, you will find his error is blatant and not in line with the scripture. Apply the very study tools he teaches himself and you will quickly see the blatant twisting of scripture. Defend the Word not the man. Show me where he is right in this teaching hermeneutically, show me where he is using scripture in context correctly in this teaching. You simply can’t. Again I ask you to please do the study yourself. God bless

  2. This is a crying shame to see how much hatred you show towards my brother. It really hurts me a lot so I can only imagine a small amount of the pain God feels about it. I suppose that you would have done the same to Peter back in the days when he did such obnoxious things such as cut off the ear of another among other things.
    May God bless my brother, Jacob and may He bless you all too. May He fill you with the same love that He showed for you when He gave His very life for you.

  3. 1 John 2:26 and 27
    But these things I have written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him adideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    I’m confident that God, His Word and the Holy Spirit are more than able to transcend my or anyone else’s lack of knowing how to read the Hebrew language: because the Word says so. It also goes on to say that we should be no respecter of persons, not to hold others in too high of esteem and that, those we listen to, we should always be fact checking to see if, what they say is true. (Acts 17:11, James 2:9, 1 John 4:1-3, 1 Cor. 5:11&12)
    Bill, we use to say the same thing about Jacob,” being a good teacher”, we can no longer say such things as we have come to realize that he has and continues to teach error and add to that he makes himself unapproachable and is vicious, he leaves no recourse to try and address or discuss the error as he throws fits, rants and rails at anyone who dare challenge his teachings; he vilifies anyone who does, making himself a victim and those of us, villains, who dare to question. A true sign of someone who is off the rails and unqualified, this is a characteristic of someone who is not fit to teach and is in fact teaching in error; this is discernment 101……. even JP teaches this! They always shift the blame, subject and attention off of what they have taught and onto those who are questioning it; he becomes viscous and out of control in his behavior towards them……
    He spiritualizes the teachings presented here, he takes scripture out of context, there is no use of hermeneutics, he cuts and pastes. He goes against all the study tools he, himself teaches, as far as how to fact check someone’s teachings in light of scripture. Yet, he himself, doesn’t apply them to his own. So don’t come here and say he’s a good teacher and because we don’t read Hebrew that somehow diminishes our ability to understand the scripture and more importantly somehow elevates him to a position above us or anyone for that matter. Discernment 101, test and try. Don’t defend the man defend the Word.

  4. Anna does not come into the picture til much later (she may have been a widow) however we know that Mary(Yeshua’s mother) was a widow and she had a face to face discussion with one of God’s messengers. – very unique!
    There are a number of instances where details are not existent and as for women stayed in the gallery or outside with the gentiles.
    Jacob’s a good teacher so lay off. and by the way, can any of you critics read Hebrew from the Book?

  5. 1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
    :35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
    36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
    Regarding vs 36…This is a refutation of the aforesaid statement….There is NO law in the OT that says such a thing. In a Greek manuscript (I will have to do some digging on that) 1Cor14:34-35 was in the margin, as it was a comment by someone else, not written by Paul. It evidently was said by a Rabbinical Jew, as they created laws that suppressed the people. (later they became the Talmudic Jews) So Paul is reacting in verse 36 to what was said in 34-35, as to say, huh? are kidding?
    I have seen this taken out of context many many times by pastors who stop short at vs 35. It is quite dishonest, and has been used as a weapon on women.

  6. Jacob goes on to say this in the same video, less that a minute into it.
    ” So we cannot take one particular passage, in isolation of all the other passages that speak to the same issue. Remember it’s always text, context, co-text. I don’t believe that women are not allowed to speak in the congregation….”
    He may actually be somewhat delusional, if he can speak these things clearly in one video/teaching and then say and do the opposite in another ….so if he’s not delusional (which is most likely isn’t) ….then what DOES that make him? Obviously he is teaching error, even according to his own teachings.

  7. That is quite a statement that “culture has nothing to do with it.” That is total denial, as the churches Paul addressed had enormous cultural issues; the Corinthians were raised in a hedonistic, immoral atmosphere on the place of the temple of Aphrodite, and the Ephesians with the temple of Artemis. This had everything to do with how they thought, behaved, treated one another, and dealt with reality. I would like JP to show us ONE, just ONE instance in the gospels where Jesus (remember him, Jacob?) suggest to women that in order to be an acceptable woman, they must have a male to legitimize them. It can’t be found. When Jesus spoke to the Samaritan woman at the well, he did not say anything to her that could not have been said to a man. He did not suggest that she “go home and take care of the man issue in your house” before she went out into the community to spread the news of the Messiah, and what He said to her. Jesus did not suggest she go and get permission from her illegitimate “man friend” she was shacking up with so she could tell the community about what Jesus had said. Also, Anna was single…there is no mention of “man in her life”. She went into Jerusalem and spoke to ALL that would listen.

  8. We had thought the same thing concerning culture and what you said about culture. Seems like he is just off the rails and you’re right, both sides of his mouth.

  9. He is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I believe he has entered a very dangerous place, given what have been subjected to, and the stories we have been told of his previous behavior. Here, he starts off with the culture at Cornith, which was one of the points that I had made to Tim. if you remember the rant video, he stated culture has nothing to do with it. So, as you had questioned him, I will as well, Jacob, which is it? He states this scripture only applies to a specific time, and should not be applied across the board, yet, that is exactly what he does later, applies it to all women of all time. He is wrong on many points here. The more I listen to him, the more he sounds scripted. When he starts talking about women, he goes off in all directions and he does this every single time.

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