BILL RANDLES CONTINUED VILIFICATION OF DAVID NATHAN! ~Treena Gisborn

 

Always, many thanks to you Treena. I do find this ironic that he continues to beat that horse and it’s dead, dead, dead. Yet he is not satisfied with David Nathan’s response; or perhaps by using a laser beam light on specifics that he picks and chooses it will keep the light off of Jacob and his many errors? We don’t get to pick and choose where the light shines.
Eph 5:13  But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

One more thing. I can only imagine if this statement:
 The Holy Spirit will not restrain.. He  (the Holy Spirit)will not operate the way Jesus predicted He would in John’s gospel convicting the world of sin, of righteousness and judgement. (John 16:8)”
was quoted by David Nathan, I’ve no doubt that the torches would be flaming and the tar and feathers at the ready along with videos, articles and more. However it belongs to Jacob Prasch, he will have to own this one and how does he explain that Jesus’s prediction of the what the Holy Spirit does is wrong? Oh, no one in his camp is asking him to explain himself, nor his faithful followers. Thankful God woke us up a few years ago. Blessing to you Treena.

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For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. (Mathew 7:2).

Having declared his “epiphany” just a few days ago, Bill Randles has reverted back to type and continues to drag David Nathan’s name through the mud!

JUST THREE DAYS LATER:

“Why There Is Still A Question… (David Nathan)

https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2018/12/30/why-there-is-still-a-question-david-nathan/?fbclid=IwAR1qlTIN1rXDrrGh7M3NZgJrTr1efL2iDcE8ExILmpLPwHBfPd7UEDfvD6E

Bill Randles:
So what is my problem? Why haven’t I ‘forgiven ‘ him? * 

My problem is that David has never explained why he said such an outrageous thing in the first place, and I have never heard him once specifically repudiate it. “In my view, the original issue which triggered all of this boils down to two statements of David Nathan’s; 
  1.  The blood of Jesus will not profit anyone anything in the Millennium” and the twin statement in which Nathan strongly asserts that the blood sacrifices offered in the Millennium are in no way memorial. In other words, they do not point back to the cross of Jesus, as the Lord’s Supper does.
  2. ” God the Father did not Create anything”... 

Lets go over the facts again shall we?

David Nathan has explained that his statement about the Blood of Jesus was badly expressed and that he was not succinct etc. Could it be any clearer Bill Randles?

David Nathan: “The statement which I should not have made but rather should have sought to express myself very differently and that folk have objected to is, “The Blood of Jesus will not profit anyone, anything in the Millennium.” In using this phrase, which I regret, I was not stating that the Blood of Jesus does not cleanse in all ages as this would be a clear violation of scripture. His blood alone can take away sin and every sacrifice from Genesis 3:21, when the Lord clothed Adam and Eve in tunics of skin to the sacrifices of the Millennium all point to Jesus. In the teaching I kept using the word atone to describe the purpose of the millennial sacrifices in the sense that they do not remove sin but cover sin. I reiterate again that I do not teach nor believe that the sin of an animal or animals can ever remove sin. Not under the Old Testament, not now nor in the age to come. Only the Blood of Jesus can remove sin both now and forever, including the millennium. This is and has always been what I have believed though I did not express it succinctly in the series on Eschatology.”
https://www.bolm.co.za/index_htm_files/Response%20to%20Bill%20Randles%20-%20Open%20Letter.pdf

David Nathan: “The bible is absolutely clear that God is the creator. The Father ordained creation. Jesus was the creator in perfect unity with the Father.. not that God the Father was not involved in creation..” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGuCiRUvriM&t=851s

I find it very hard to understand Bill Randles continued persistence in vilifying David Nathan. Amos Farrell gave some good advice that he should have directed towards himself: 
 
STOP THIS!

I am no apologist for David Nathan by any means, but I cannot stand idly by while complete distortions of the truth are employed in order to destroy another believer. Prasch and his sycophants will have to give an answer for their wicked behaviour in this matter. (Matthew 7:2).

In the meantime, although he has had a complete month to do so, Bill Randles hasn’t had time to examine Prasch’s dubious intra-seal teachings including “Counting the Omer”, and statements like “the Holy Spirit will not be in the world during the 70th week of Daniel”,“Pentecost is reversed”, etc. It would take perhaps an hour at the most for an experienced bible scholar/teacher to examine intra-seal and to find that it is utterly false. So what is the agenda?

11 thoughts on “BILL RANDLES CONTINUED VILIFICATION OF DAVID NATHAN! ~Treena Gisborn

  1. It certainly is a choice that he has made, along with others that continue to support Prasch and never address his abusive behaviors, lies and railings. Not to mention the teachings that are contrary to scriptures and or have no scripture to support them. It’s clear that those who support him and allow him in their pulpits don’t do any serious examination of his teachings and from the way Bill Randles and others have behaved it’s apparent that they would rather stand with Prasch and his error. One can only assume that they believe every word that comes out of his mouth and don’t feel the need to fact check him on anything including and especially holding his teachings to the light of the scriptures.

  2. I would not ever listen to Bill Randles again. He does not have a mind if his own. A shame he belongs to the Jacob Prasch (moriel) Cult. Pity.😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

  3. It is apparent that Bill Randles is not someone that can be trusted for sound discernment or decision making. He is a man that has extreme personal problems that have never been dealt with before God, or there would have been some evident fruit. He is extremely clinically obese, and has gotten worse over the years (and his is not a “hormone imbalance”) So much of what is connected to Jacob Prasch is false teaching, unbalanced, and in general, just plain sick.

  4. Bill Randles has resorted to false witness in order to accuse David Nathan.. yet again! David Nathan DOES NOT teach that Jesus only created everything independently without the Father. I have listened to the tape and this is provably the case! It seems to me that those who seek to falsely accuse and humiliate David Nathan publicly should publicly repent and apologise to him. God is not mocked! (Galatians 6:7).

  5. Well said Lianne, yes Jacob is an abuser and a railer, who has been caught in lies and deception. I’m thankful for God using this to open the eyes of people who have been following him and now through all of this mess they can see the truth.

  6. If they stay focused on just David Nathan and repeat it enough times, they are hoping others will believe it and follow blindly, like themselves. I am thankful that some are seeing and separating from them.

  7. So David Nathan’s recent replies mean nothing to you? They obviously mean nothing to Bill Randles nor anyone else in the Moriel camp as they all either haven’t taken the time to listen to them or when they do they still aren’t satisfied and yet David has repented and humbled himself. Now perhaps they can focus on what needs to be corrected within their own ranks and with Jacob. We pray.

  8. Why, oh, why, does this continue? Why is David Nathan continuing to be attacked? His ministry is almost destroyed, and this attack, going on now for over five months, has taken a tremendous toll on him and his family, saved and unsaved. It has to STOP, and stop now. Surely David has already refuted these charges against his teaching; he has clarfied, corrected and retracted them.
    And, furthermore, Bill says that Jacob Prasch is no spiritual abuser, despite many coming forward to speak of their abuse at his hands. Bill just rubs salt into their wounds; by denying their abuse, he Just adds insult to injury.
    He also describes Jacob Prasch’s utterances as rhetoric. Wrong “R” word. See 1 Corinthians 5:11. It is railer or reviler depending on what version you read. See especially the Amplified Version. We are not to keep company or even eat with such a person.
    Bill, I am so disappointed in you. You’re much better than this.

  9. Proverbs 17:9 “Whoever covers an offense seeks love, but he who repeats a matter separates close friends.”

    “He that covereth a transgression — That passes by and buries in oblivion a transgression that hath been committed against himself; or that concealeth, as far as he may, other men’s faults against their friends or neighbours; seeketh love — Takes the best course to preserve friendships and to make himself universally beloved; but he that repeateth a matter — Who rakes up that fault again, and objects it afresh when it was forgotten; or that publishes and spreads it abroad; separateth very friends — Breaks the strictest bonds of amity, and makes an irreconcilable separation.”
    https://biblehub.com/commentaries/proverbs/17-9.htm

    Thank you for sharing.
    God bless.

  10. Well,

    I listened to Nathan’s preach onnthis video

    Yes, he clearly preached it was a Jesus only creation period.

    Not once in his message did he deviate from this claim and he could have ask “should” have

    Now he’s back teaching which makes him appear 2 faced and unstable in his his teaching

    What I see is Nathan’s simply succumbing to pressure not conviction of belief

    Nathan’s is not a novice preacher and to miss clarity is not believable coming from an experienced teacher

    He simply does not want to lose his endorsements of Prasch and other credible teachers

    His motivation is to protect his name and reputation rather than protect the name of Christ and Truth

    Nathan’s I find highly suspect and had earned strong examination

    I side with Randles and find Nathan’s as one who is seeking acclaim and an edge on the truth seeking popularity for his insights of “new” teaching

    2 Thumbs down 👎 for Nathan’s Ana 2 thumbs up 👍 for Randles and Prasch

    Tim Smith

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