Another warning shot: to those who will hear; run from Jacob Prasch’s error ~ Addendum by tbckawaii

The addendum to this article came through the comments by tbckawaii who has provided video and comments of  Jacob and his wife at a recent conference. The video and comments have been added to this article. Much thanks to tbckawaii, John and Nadia.

April 15, 2019 at 12:02 am said:

Video of Prasch in 2019 inviting his wife to “testify”. What she actually does is something rather different.

https://vimeo.com/326214223 (password: Amos)

Comments:

Nadia
Mr Prasch is likely to attract an audience the size he commands, largely for entertainment value it provides I’d wager! There is no need to follow someone to quickly scratch below the surface and when guards are down the truth outs! A man who vehemently opposes teaching of ANY kind to mixed congregations that include adults by women was damned instantly at his Northern Conference Part One (UK earlier this month). I saw the first version (clearly unedited) just hours after he had finished preaching. It was on his You Tube channel. Shortly afterwards he edited out his wife “Davia” who appeared at the lectern to give a “testimony”. Prasch proudly assured us his wife who “rarely” appeared alongside him, would NOT teach as per his policy. That testimony was pure a comment, exhortations and textual examination (albeit muddled and unclear) from the book of Esther. I was waiting for the relevant reference to her testimony. Her punchline as it were! None followed, just quasi railing (in a style not dissimilar from hubby’s) with a reference to Purim and what she had appeared to construe from the story with repeated exhortations for us to understand her points. It was definitely no testimony. It was out and out teaching! The video was edited as I returned to it later and her contribution had been cut. It was an interesting gaffe on Prasch’s part, but no doubt embarrassing for him. Clearly his wife doesn’t share his views on a woman’s role! He has totally discredited himself in my view (not that I would have put him first on my “Best Preacher” list). Hence, I did another little search and found your video which was helpful in reinforcing the phoney phooey I had seen was hallmarking much (not all) of his teaching! Thank you.

tbckawaiiPLUS1 month ago
Hi Nadia! I also saw the original video and I share your views exactly. I liked the way Prasch introduced it and she pulled a bait and switch by undermining him with teaching instead of testimony.
I have a copy of the original video fortunately.

John3 weeks ago
Hi tbckawaii, I believe his wife has to be compliant in his unscrupulous deeds, I do not believe she is ignorant. I know that she and him rarely appear together, could it be she knows if he goes down so does she?

Anyway could you please post the clip of her preaching?

tbckawaiiPLUS3 weeks ago
Hi John, here is the link: vimeo.com/326214223
Password is Amos

For anyone not familiar with Jacob Prasch and his recent video series on teaching that women cannot teach doctrine to men. I will be referencing the video “What can women teach at conferences” and “The ox that gores” (which is a newer video where he mentions the subject). Jacob usually just references Bible stories and twists them to fit his own teaching, he never goes through scripture in context with subject. He cannot and still show his doctrine is biblically sound.

In his arrogance Prasch continues to teach error with no apparent fear of God, all the while, mishandling and twisting scriptures. While this article is late in coming, I thought I was done.. I wanted to be done with Prasch. However, in light of his recent video (the ox that gores) mentioned above; I felt it necessary to send another warning shot to any who will hear. His teaching borders on lunacy and tends to make one feel in need of a shower afterwards; but praying some will hear, be warned and take heed not to be deceived.  In the video “What can women teach at conferences”,

Women can only teach doctrine to other women…..they cannot teach doctrine to mixed congregations, neither can they bring pastoral teaching, exhortation to a mixed congregation.”

Jacob Prasch, speaking of his wife, says: “I have no problem with my wife giving Hebrew lessons; teaching people (i.e. mixed crowds MEN) how to read the Old Testament in the original language. She’s done it, with her head covered, under my authority. There is no problem whatsoever in this kind of thing. The dissemination of information, there are some very good women researchers, active in areas of discernment and things of this nature. Who are excellent researchers; No problem, they’re only disseminating information. We can go further, with their head covered, women can give testimony in evangelistic situations (i.e. again mixed crowds, men) or an exhortative situation. No they cannot expound doctrine but they can exhort based on testimony. With their head covered. They can also witness, tell the gospel.”

The more he attempts to make his doctrine appear biblically sound the more bizarre, he sounds. Let’s look at some definitions of the words he is using as “proof” that women who do teach in mixed settings or congregations are just sharing information, not teaching men; according to his spin. Starting with his wife who teaches Hebrew from the Old Testament to men and women. Although this a profession and not set in a “congregational” type setting I find it interesting that he chose this as an example. Could it also be her ministry? He calls what she does as teaching the language which is correct. But he goes further. calling what she does is also just “disseminating information”, because it is the Old Testament scripture that she is “teaching” the language from. Prasch certainly isn’t ignorant, at least in the sense that, he knows the word of God is living and active, so he has to maintain and find all the hoops to jump through in order for his doctrine to appear to stand. By the end of it all he is confusing and contradicts not only the scriptures but even his own teaching.

“they cannot bring exhortation to a mixed congregation” and then a few minutes later “women can give testimony in evangelistic situations or an exhortative situation.” There is so much error and heresy in his teaching that’s it’s difficult to address just one; but my focus is on dissemination of information, here’s the definition.

Disseminating =  to spread abroad as though sowing seed (disseminate ideas), to disperse throughout. Spread or disperse (something especially information) widely.

Luke 8:5 &11 “A sower went out to sow his seed. And as he sowed, some fell by the wayside; and it was trampled down, and the birds of the air devoured it. Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

Definition of Sower/sow = to scatter seed to sow Sowing, disseminating the word of God.

Now perhaps Jacob should have selected another word, other than disseminating, to use to reinforce his point because the word disseminate goes against what he is teaching and actually supports scripture. And he looks foolish and desperate in his attempt to prove he is right. Rather than looking at the Word. Which brings me to the next point. Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth; it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

If Jacob Prasch’s wife were teaching the Hebrew language from ANY other book or text OTHER than the Old Testament it would seem to make his point a little clearer; but she is not, she is teaching to a mixed crowd the living, breathing, active word of God, so by the very nature of God’s word; it is His words/doctrines that are going forth; and by that alone, she is “sowing seed” in the hearts of men and women.  not, as he says, just disseminating information.

It’s the same thing when he references women researchers and their being active in discernment. These women are called by God, used by God and gifted by God and any man or woman that hears their teachings, are being taught, schooled, instructed by them; doctrines and sound teachings. God gifted them and is using them.

One last example of Jacob’s used in the video is that women can also share the gospel with men.   “They can also witness, tell the gospel” How can a woman share the gospel and the salvation message with men and not be teaching doctrine? Again by its very nature of the word of God voids what Prasch is selling. Soteriology: The doctrine of salvation.  How can anyone “sow seed”  and not be teaching or speaking doctrine?

I have revisited this due to the fact that Prasch continues to teach this error, albeit, off topic, in his recent conference teachings on “The Ox that gores” Starting at around the 34-minute mark. https://youtu.be/1Zgd7j3sTsU

Let me also point to yet another article that correctly shows more error and deception in his teaching on yet another unrelated topic. The of the Holy Spirit as the restrainer, and how Jacob not only maligns those who are pre wrath in their eschatology but at the end outright says they are in error.

I’m paraphrasing here, he essentially says: If they (pre wrath) don’t have a correct understanding of the doctrine of pneumatology, then their eschatology is incorrect. Where in the video, a few minutes before he makes this issue a non-essential now it’s essential. Bottom line is if you don’t believe what he teaches you get gored.  I’ve included this topic on eschatology as it lends to the fact that he is teaching error on more than just the topic of women. It’s not just on an isolated topic, subject or issue. Prasch’s behavior and his outright teaching of error on these two subjects alone should be a call to arms for all watchmen and all who discern and warn others.

Here’s some irony in all of this. The scriptures on the “Ox that gores” also holds the owners of the ox responsible for the damage that is done by way of not being responsible in correcting the situations or circumstances to prevent the ox from goring and causing harm or damage to others. I put Prasch in a category of an ox that gores. His demeanor towards those who oppose or question him is vicious and his rants are pure rage. He immediately takes the stance of “them vs. us” and demonizes those who oppose as Jezebels, Ahab’s, ignorant of the word. He falsely accuses them of believing and teaching error and marks them as false brethren. He creates an immediate division of the body, so as to deflect from his error. Closing all doors to possible debate or discussion on these topics, he divides and breaks fellowship and causes other to also.

Now what of those who give him a platform to spew this garbage?

Exodus 21:29 But if the ox tended to thrust with its horn in times past, and it has been made known to his owner, and he has not kept it confined, so that is has killed a man or a woman, the ox shall be stoned and its owner also shall be put to death.


https://youtu.be/tFbGse7YLxU https://youtu.be/40QgiXn1emc

http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries-further.html

 

8 thoughts on “Another warning shot: to those who will hear; run from Jacob Prasch’s error ~ Addendum by tbckawaii

  1. Awesome, thank you! I will look these links over. And yes I agree with you, as Gentiles we are under no obligation to keep Jewish customs, those instituted by the law or traditions of men.

  2. I guess this is all good for us to understand: So here is a teaching of JP teaching about how God hates the mixture:https://www.moriel.org/online-sermons/23-sermons-in-english/5924-understanding-the-mixture.html and here is what wiki says about the Mishnah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishnah This is very confusing to non Jewish believer’s. When I use to listen to him I wondered how much I’m suppose to know about Judaism. Fact is the Mishnah is based on Rabbinic Judaism, commentaries, etc. The Rabbi commentary’s are read and not the Bible. So why teach a sermon quoting an unbelieving Rabbi (Mishnah or even use Midrash)? When I learned that I was taught wrong about Genesis 6, I realize that I have to keep it up and not take people’s word for it. I believe that we are not to be mixing Jewish Tradition with Biblical Christianity. Because that is what we practiced BEFORE we were born again, the ‘doctrines of men’. I’m not Jewish, but I am uncomfortable with this mix. I believe J.P. does a lot of it.

  3. I guess I figured it out: He repeats almost exactly the Jewish prayers: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/blessings-for-food-drink/ . This is not in the Bible. These are rabbinic rituals. Once we are born again, we become new creatures. Even if you are a Jewish believer it seems to me that this would be pointed out to the audience, that these were rituals rabbi’s made up. Is the audience all Jewish? If so, they should be lead out of the traditions of men just like any Roman Catholic would. Yes?

  4. Could you please tell me what him sitting in the chair being ‘served’ bread and wine which he ONLY partakes of in front of this audience means? Is he saying he is RABBI?~ This can’t be the LORD’S supper, it’s something else.

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