Catalyst Counselling/Jacob Prasch Part 3~ Graham Baldwin

We are thankful to God and His grace and mercy that some are waking up to the lies and deception. We  pray that God will continue to use us to help those that have; to heal and recover.



8 thoughts on “Catalyst Counselling/Jacob Prasch Part 3~ Graham Baldwin

  1. Tom Dreyer, what you say makes no difference and has no power to change one thing unless you have provided Scriptures as proof in what you are disputing. You use the shotgun effect to blanket all that has been discovered and made known concerning Jacob Prasch over the past almost two years now. Concerning not only his fruit but teachings and other conduct and character. Yet you bring absolutely no Scripture to dispute them. So what you say is empty and of no value. Please stay on topic here and not add Haller to the mix, it only serves as a deflection. Again, it would be of benefit to everyone to be more specific and to dispute the issues with Scripture.

    2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
    2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
    Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
    Galatians 5:22-26— But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against such things. Now those who belong to the Messiah Jesus have crucified their flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, by the Spirit let us also be guided. Let’s stop being arrogant, provoking one another and envying one another.

  2. You have yet to prove any of Jacob’s teaching to be false. You just have an axe to grind. Please show how his and Haller’s teachings are false.

  3. Treena Gisborn has zero qualifications as a Bible teacher. She is pissed off because Jacob rightly put her in her place.

  4. Tom Dreyer, in order to address your comment in a way that will be of benefit to everyone, we simply ask that you bring Scripture to dispute the evidence, teachings and fruit of Prasch’s that have been found to be in error. It does absolutely nothing and is of no value to anyone to simple make statements as you have without bringing scriptural correction to support your claims. Please take the time to do this.

  5. There are those like Treena Gisborn who think they have refuted the teachings of Jacob Prasch. Graham Bsldwin and his phoney catalyst counseling claim Jacob is under investigation. Mike Roger’s claims Jacob is a fslsecteacher. They have proven nothing except they have axes to grind. They are the liars and false teachers.

  6. I have discovered when you look closely at Prasch’s teachings on a variety of subjects what he often calls Midrash is eisegesis. He never does expository preaching it’s always topical and he alludes to this chapter or that chapter usually out of context or he says something he claims is in that chapter that does’t exist. Most is simply presupposition. For example he likes to use the term Jezebel a lot and will say that where there is a Jezebel there is an Ahab. He speaks of a Jezebel spirit, something that is not substantiated by Scripture. He generalizes a lot without biblical support or proof. Like you said, its magical thinking. Secondly, he doesn’t obey the Scripture himself and sets no example for others to follow (Heb. 13:7), cannot demonstrate the fruits of the Spirit, does not line up with the requirements listed in Titus or Timothy for ministry. And cannot debate an issue as he either has not time or patience for it but will challenge men he knows will not respond to him as though he is some world renown expert in all things. And lastly, his arguments like you say are usually ad hominem assassinations. I’m not an expert in Hebrew or Greek but I think even I could stand up to him on a variety of subjects in a debate. He forgets that every believer possess the Holy Spirit who leads them into all truth. Education is helpful but not all conclusive as discernment in spiritual matters determines one’s maturity along with godly character. He has neither from what I’ve seen. That people cannot see is it only because they choose not to. I can’t do anything with that, no one can. Bottom line, I’m not impressed! And I have had men impress me, he doesn’t. At best he is narcissistic, worst case scenario, sociopathic. At least he shows the signs anyway.

  7. The key thing is that Prasch has not been able to dispute anything Graham Baldwin has said. Graham has found Prasch and Lister have their snouts in the Moriel “charity” trough; has found there is no realistic reason why the closeted-away “treasurer” Lister -who I’ve never set eyes on- is given via “love offering” nearly the same nearly 100k US dollars annually as El Presidente Prasch; has found that Prasch is about as Jewish as Darby O’Gill; has found that his crowd of Moriel Ultras cannot interact with the evidence except through ad hominem character assassination via fake evidence and magical thinking; and has found that his most hardcore acolytes Amos Farrell and “Lydia” Chavez are “jokes”.
    Graham Baldwin with truth has comprehensively deconstructed the Prasch facade of Jewish legitimacy. I praise God for the way He sent Graham into the fray carrying the banner of truth.

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