Moriel Statement: Jacob Prasch’s disassociation from Bill Randles

I want to clarify that from what I have seen, experienced and have others share with me; I’m convinced Jacob Prasch and Bill Randles are cut from the same corrupt cloth, so sharing this information is not meant to be taking one side or the other. My prayer is both would repent; but outside of that, perhaps God will take them both out of ministry for the sake of flock.
Credit to Treena and the information provided at the end concerning JP’s untrue statements concerning his lymphatic oedema cause.

https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2019/10/moriel-statement-jacob-prasch-moriel.html?fbclid=IwAR11A7GdYOad4qsNd5GRnODh3cIub3iHIimQEzDdnESIGbLNzNsWh_8jeUA

Below is a statement dated the 14th of October from Moriel Ministries regarding Jacob Prasch’s disassociation from Bill Randles.

Firstly to the genuine brethren and sisters that I have engaged with I thank you for your prayers and petitions on behalf of Jacob and Moriel. You have shown the true Faith in maturity and Trust in The Lord Jesus and knowing the difference by Godly Discernment. The last days are upon us and only those with true insight [discernment] will have understanding.[Dan.12:10]


I fully appreciate it when folk who are not privy to prior correspondence and communications are suddenly confronted with news of a schism between brethren who formerly stood shoulder to shoulder against the heresies confronting the modern church, and who had hitherto been friends. Both are held in high esteem by many of us, both are loved by many of us.

The decision by the Moriel Board to disassociate from Bill Randles was painful and not taken lightly. It was not the decision of Jacob Prasch alone. Moriel had long endorsed and cooperated with Bill Randles, and as similarly transpired with David Nathan, there was widespread concern over what they were teaching [DN] and promoting[BR] and understandable objection to Moriel’s association with it.

By way of fact, the near collapse of Bill Randles’ church in the USA that saw the resignation of all but one of his elders, his secretary, and the mass departure of members, many of whom had been with him over 25 years was something that took place well before any disagreements Moriel had with Bill Randles and transpired without any reference to, or involvement of Jacob Prasch or Moriel. These things happened on the ugliest of terms, but Moriel or Jacob Prasch were not involved in any of it.

The issues surrounding Bill Randles are broad, they precede, and go beyond the forced reaction of Moriel. Neither has the subsequent decline of Bill Randles’ international ministry been in any way precipitated by or involve Moriel. The decisions of Bill Randles’ videographer to resign from Bill’s church, the loss of his financial sponsor for trips to Australia and New Zealand, and the loss of GCR TV – his largest YouTube platform, were all decisions of their own taken in response to the new direction Bill Randles has embarked upon.

Jacob Prasch & Moriel had nothing to do with these decisions by them to withdraw from further involvement or support of Bill Randles. It was purely his actions and their response.

Moriel & Jacob Prasch agree with Bill Randles’ public labelling of David Nathan as being heretical. The video documented false teachings of David Nathan cannot be described as otherwise and Bill Randles was and is correct on this point. Moriel was therefore left perplexed by Bill Randles public attack on Jacob Prasch in support of those who were promoting the very same David Nathan that Bill Randles had called ‘heretical’.

Moriel is also left perplexed by Bill Randles’ recent itinerary in Australia with a figure he invited and promoted in his pulpit who propounds the view that the Two Witnesses of The Book of Revelation Chapter 11 are the 2 angels who rescued Lot in Genesis and are God The Father and God The Holy Spirit who must come in human form as Christ did, and be killed in Jerusalem. This figure has recently re-enforced this view in a 2019 video on ‘Angels’. While Bill Randles admits this teaching to be false, he hosted this false teacher in his church and still partners with him, and did so only a matter of weeks ago.

Bill Randles likewise admits that the lunatic fringe false teacher Craig White whom Bill Randles also had in his pulpit teaches serious error. Yet White’s material remains on Bill Randles internet platform. Meanwhile, Bill Randles’ representative in New Zealand propounds the false teaching that the prophecy of Revelation chapter 12 with the Woman & Stars, The Manchild, and the dragon & serpent were fulfilled 23rd September, 2017 because ‘The Moon was in Virgo”.

It has been one episode after another. The Bill Randles we knew at one time would have been the first to oppose error and those who disseminate it. Now he promotes those who propagate what Bill Randles himself admits is false doctrine. Bill Randles’ denunciation of the pastor of a local Calvary Chapel, to whom many of the ex-flux of refugees from his church went and sought a new home, as a ‘psychopath’ was in our view slanderous and defamatory.

Misplaced notions that Jacob Prasch is a heresy hunter are ridiculous. These errors are propagated in the public domain and their promoters are promoting Bill Randles who until recently was promoted by Moriel and endorsed by Jacob Prasch. The Moriel Board was left with no viable choice but to do as the majority of church and other ministry partners have done and disassociate from Bill Randles. Moriel desired or initiated none of this. It is almost unbelievable to us that someone of the calibre of Bill Randles’ has gone the way he has.

A few, unable to deny the factual basis of Moriel’s actions have instead resorted to the ad hominem response of charging that Jacob Prasch is harsh in his manner in confronting the proponents of error and their promoters. We can only respectfully suggest that those espousing such a view read the words of Jesus in Matthew 23 or the diatribes and polemics of The Hebrew prophets. Is their problem with Jacob Prasch or rather with The Word of God?

Like Bill Randles, Jacob Prasch battles with issues of health; specifically Lymphatic Oedema causing non dietary obesity. To function Jacob is reliant on certain meds, one of which has the side effect of oral dehydration affecting salvia secretion. He is not ‘foaming at the mouth’ but battling a disease. Such personal attacks only evade the factual and doctrinal issues.

With Blessings in Jesus,

MORIEL (SA)
PSALM 121

A brief observation concerning the last paragraph:

I have done a little Internet research on the subject of lymphatic oedema as the cause of non dietary obesity, and this is not the case. There are a number of causes for lymphatic oedema, obesity being one of them in the case of secondary lymphatic oedema. Obese people suffering from lymphatic oedema are advised to lose weight as it is an aggravating factor. Prasch’s penchant for changing facts is truly astonishing!

UPDATE

There have been a lot of rumours going around about the situation at Bill Randles church, but nothing concrete. A previous member of Believers in Grace, Sergio Mariani, part of Randles media team, has now made a public statement. Sergio’s experience corresponds with my own very unpleasant interaction with the Randles.

http://moriel.org/latest/latest-news/sergio-mariani-statement-on-bill-randles-oct-13-2019.html

3 thoughts on “Moriel Statement: Jacob Prasch’s disassociation from Bill Randles

  1. In 2017, Prasch blamed his obesity on “lymphatic fluid” in a video ‘The Sin of Gluttony’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sqeoS3AxvI&t=571s
    Once again Prasch distorts the medical facts:

    NHS: “People who are obese, particularly those who are severely obese, have an increased risk of developing swollen body parts. It’s not clear exactly why this is, but it’s been suggested that the extra fatty tissue affects the lymphatic channels in some way, reducing the flow of fluid through them. In these cases, weight loss is an important part of treatment and even just starting to lose weight can make a big difference to the swelling.” https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/lymphoedema/causes/

    Prasch says correctly that gluttony is addressed as a serious sin in the scriptures (albeit that he falsely excludes himself), and he has previously made a passing reference to Bill Randles’ obesity. In particular, what kind of witnesses are morbidly obese pastors or elders i.e. those who are supposedly examples to the church (and the world)? (1 Peter 5:3).

    “..their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things.”(Philippians 3:19).

    “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” (1 Corinthians 9:7).

    Ellicott’s Commentary: “..to the subduing of the appetites and passions which are located in it (the body). The true position of our natural appetites is that they should be entirely our servants, and not our masters; that we ‘should not follow or be led by them,’ but that they should follow and be led by us.” https://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_corinthians/9-27.htm

  2. “It’s called Fork To Mouth Disease”. Lol, yeah and it looks like the two also have had seconds on the ‘Foot in Mouth Disease” as well.

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