Tim Wirth

Well I have expressed why I left Moriel. Here is the short version. God in His grace and mercy removed me from Moriel. Jacob thought it was ok to change his shirt in front of my wife Donna and open his pants to tuck his shirt in. Now no worries here concerning Donna . My wife has been legally blind since she was 14 and now is in late mid term Alzheimer’s so she was pretty oblivious of the situation. Me on the other hand wanted to gouge my own eyes out because it was gross and disrespectful to me and my wife. Now people have said the old talking points “he is from NY” O thats just Jacob etc..Sorry I know unsaved people from New York that would not do this type of behavior. I do believe that Jacob is saved but really not acting very Christlike in many ways. Long story short I was upset and stressed so I wanted some time off to focus on my wife and pray about what I should do with Moriel and James Jacob Prasch. A guy was bought in to assist me during my time off and as soon as I sent the guy the passwords I was locked out of Vimeo, You Tube and Roku within a 3 day period. End of story. In perspective and in my personal experience this scripture came to mind. Genesis 19:16 speaking about taking Lot out of Sodom and Gomorrah 16 But he hesitated. So the men seized his hand and the hand of his wife and the hands of his two daughters, for the compassion of the Lord was upon him; and they brought him out, and put him outside the city.. Now to be fair I do not think Moriel is Sodom and Gomorrah . The part that stuck with me is sometimes we hesitate leaving something bad and we need to be pulled out.

The larger problem is the hundreds of people making excuse for Jacob and Moriel. So here is my insight after hundreds of hours of conversation with and filming over 600 videos for Jacob.
Jacob has convinced a lot of people that he is a brilliant man. Many of these people are pretty sharp individuals who know the scriptures but hold Jacob up in really too high esteem. There is something called the overconfidence effect . Here is the definition from Wiki. The overconfidence effect is a well-established bias in which a person’s subjective confidence in his or her judgments is reliably greater than the objective accuracy of those judgments, especially when confidence is relatively high] Overconfidence is one example of a miscalibration of subjective probabilities. Throughout the research literature, overconfidence has been defined in three distinct ways: overestimation of one’s actual performance; (2) over-placement of one’s performance relative to others; and overprecision in expressing unwarranted certainty in the accuracy of one’s beliefs.

The most common way in which overconfidence has been studied is by asking people how confident they are of specific beliefs they hold or answers they provide. The data show that confidence systematically exceeds accuracy, implying people are more sure that they are correct than they deserve to be. end description

James Jacob Prasch knows a little bit about a lot of things to be dangerous because he is then held in higher esteem. How is your Greek? I speak none. But some that do have called Jacob out on it. How is your Hebrew? I speak zero. However Jacobs wife Pavia does and Jacob would be the first to admit she is smarter then him concerning Hebrew. When we would be taping on Skype Pavia would often come into the office stating “Yacov that’s not the way you pronounce that”. Then the fight was on with Jacob screaming at his wife. And trust me Pavia is no push over. Now to be fair Jacob would also sometimes stop taping to consult with Pavia on how to properly pronounce a word or get the exact meaning. And nothing wrong with that because Pavia is a smart and godly woman. But again Jacob uses a lot of topics the average person would not know in his talks. Unless you know Hebrew, Greek or medical things its really hard to fact check Jacob.
Does Jacob do that on purpose? I think sometimes he struggles with coming across too intellectual but that’s a trap for him because he likes the laughs and attention. That’s my opinion.

Being a know it all is what first tripped up Prasch with me. We were discussing doing a video on music . He thought it would be good since I have drummed for over 40 years. So I asked what he had in mind. He said do a paradiddle and rattled off something on his desk top at his office at his home in England. I asked Jacob if he wanted a paradiddle or wanted me to mimic what he just did on his desktop? Jacob then persisted that what he did was a paradiddle. I then demonstrated a double paradiddle to Jacob which is simply RRLR-LLRL. Jacob said “No this is a paradiddle and rattled off whatever on his desk top his version.
Well I corrected Jacob and he just dug in, got mad, and stated “We just wont do it because you cant play a simple paradiddle.”

That’s the problem. Jacob constructs an alternate reality where he is always right and others are wrong. And their is zero accountability in Moriel and when people stand up to Jacob they are eliminated and smeared.
The other problem is Jacobs flirting. Again people will just call Jacobs crass jokes and flirting as “That’s just Jacob”.
No that”s no accountability and it puts Jacob in danger.
We were at FBC in Columbus and there was a ling line of people waiting to speak to Jacob or have him autograph their books. A nice attractive young lady came up to him and asked him if he narrated any of his books on Kindle or in his own voice.
Jacob then stated ” I could read you Lady Chatterley’s Lover if you would like”.
And this was not private in some corner Jacob felt perfectly comfortable stating this with other people in line and church leadership around.
Some people even chuckled. The lady just looked a little confused and walked away with Jacob laughing.
Later on I took him aside and rebuked him in a firm but calm way .
I remember saying “Dude you cant talk to ladies like that. Plus there were a lot of people around. This type of junk could ruin your ministry”.
Jacob just laughed and waved me off.
Its really dangerous to send a guy all over the world by himself with no accountability and alone in hotel rooms.
David Lister gets an honorable mention here because Jacob and Lister run Moriel. You can say there is a board but its all between Lister and Prasch.
Nobody else’s council matters.
Lister is a master of blessing you and then beating you over the head with it .
And Lister is also very clever about proof texting and trying to shut you up and heave guilt on you by using the scriptures to do so.
The money is a big problem as well but I will just share this email with you to sum that up.
The email was between David Lister and myself
From: Tim Wirth
To: David Moriel
Cc: Tim Wirth
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Donations for Moriel

Dear David: I wrapped with Jacob about 1 hour ago and am editing now. He wants me to make a donation appeal at the end of each film we make. I can do this with a lower third and provide a direct link to the donation page on Moriel in my U tube page.
I thought I could word it in the lower third like its stated on the website and than provide a link in my paragraph box on U Tube.
Please support the vital work of Moriel Ministries, a click on the fund below and you can donate with a credit card (you don’t need an account) via PayPal (or with your PayPal account).
https://www.moriel.org/donate.html
If you would like to send a check, please check the list on the right or go to this page to find the closest Moriel branch to mail your check to.

If you would like me to handle this or word it differently please let me know when You can.
Blessings In Jesus
Tim
Davids answer-David Lister
Thu 4/7/2016 9:02 AM
Dear Tim:
We should be careful how we do this we don’t want to be seen begging for money. This would not look good let me talk to him.
In Peace,
David
We give Jacob what he needs as often times that works out better than what he wants.

We need to put up a series of things, For more information go to Moriel.org
To support the work go to…
For deeper study on this subject go to.

We don’t want begging on every one or it will have the opposite effect. We have money are are in good shape.
In Peace,
David

Now go to Moriel’s website and look at the size of the donation button on the new website

Lack of accountability , pride, and money as well as other things will destroy a minister or ministry and sometimes cause them to go off the map and start teaching stuff outside of scripture to keep people interested and the coffers full.
These days the hits on real biblical teaching are way under the amount of videos that use gossip or news reports disguised as prophecy updates.
Go check for yourselves and come to your own conclusions.
Blessings
Tim