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Bethel’s Bizarre Preacher visit’s Local Church

Kris Kildosher from Bill Johnson’s Bethel Church visited a local Church in the Defiance Ohio area in February.  I have included an audio of the message below which is about an hour and a half long.  Riddled throughout the message are many prophecies of financial breakthroughs, a house of restoration for the pastor of the church, and many other  bizarre happenings, several invisible healings, as Kris introduces himself as the entertainment of the hour.  Just prior to his introduction, Kris is found on the floor during the worship service where he was given a vision of the throne of God.  Now drunk in the Spirit, Kris takes the podium where he begins to preach (if you can call it preaching).

Kris’s mom is a spirit filled catholic, according to Kris she had dreams and visions so  as a result Kris met Jesus at a young age.  During Kris’s college years God spoke to him about Acts 5, God said that Kris was lying to God about giving everything to God.   Kris then spent two days rolling around on the floor having visions and encounters. Nov 7, 2004 the Holy Spirit came into His apartment and filled him. (Question: how was he having visions and encounters if the Holy Spirit wasn’t there?   According to Kris, after the two days of rolling on the floor having visions and encounters, the Holy Spirit came into his apartment and filled him.)

Kris then started going to house church meetings where signs and wonders where happening, diamonds would appear on floor, nine of them showed up at his house when he went to the school of supernatural ministry.  He then moved to Bethel California to attend the School of Supernatural Ministry where he graduated in 2008.  He then traveled the world.  1 Tim 1:11 is His favorite verse “The bliss full happy God” (Must be a new version).

Listening to Kris you start to understand that everything he believes in is experience based rather than faith based.  Like dozens of deaf ears being opened, tumors disappearing on a weekly bases, dreams, visions, encounters etc.  Like his conversion, there is no mention of the Gospel, repentance of sin and faith in Jesus Christ.  All you hear is about dreams, visions, the prophetic, etc, etc.  This then is the fruit of Bill Johnson’s ministry, a “Gospel-less Gospel.”  I found it difficult to listen to the message in it’s entirety in one sitting as it made me nauseous to think that the church has gone so far from the truth of God’s Word.  However, I felt it necessary to post so people can see what sort of warped teachings are coming out of Bethel Church.  To listen to the message click here – Kris Kildosher of Bethel



2 Thessalonians 2:9-11

“The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie.”



1. an act or instance of deluding.

2. the state of being deluded.

3. a false belief or opinion: delusions of grandeur.

4. Psychiatry . a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion

Strongs Concordance :

The Greek word delusion is 4106 πλάνη [ plane / plan ·ay /] deceit, delusion, roams hither and thither, wrong opinion relative to morals or religion, error which shows itself in action, a wrong mode of acting.

So someone who is deluded has little or no hope of recovery, because their belief is fixed, unmovable , resistant to any form of reasoning or confrontation with the actual facts. It then becomes a paranoid delusion:
What are Paranoid Delusions? Delusions are beliefs that are not backed up by reality. They may remain despite obvious evidence to the contrary, and the fact that nobody else believes them to be true. Sad thing is that there are many.
Add to that fact that the delusion is sent by God Himself “Strong” delusion

The Greek for STRONG: 1753 ἐνέργεια [ energeia / en· erg ·i·ah /] in the NT used only of superhuman power, whether of God or of the Devil. operation, working, efficiency

     I always thought it was interesting that it wasn’t the truth that they didn’t receive, but rather the LOVE of the truth. Which means they take the truth and apply it to their own desires, which then makes the truth a lie. It’s a “wrong opinion relative to morals and religion, error which shows it’s self in action or a wrong mode of acting.

     It’s no wonder that when I’ve listened, watched , read these guys materials, sermons, fire tunnels, laughing spirit etc. that I would always come away feeling like I had just visited a freak sideshow of the spiritually crazed. I now realize that is exactly what I have done. It becomes evident in their strange and bizarre behaviors and their strange and bizarre explanations (Biblical or extra) for their actions. If what we are seeing today is the beginning of the strong delusion then there is no doubt these are on their way or are already reprobate and if we think we have heard and seen strange things to date……we “aint seen nothing yet”

     No wonder they think it’s acceptable to “follow after signs and wonder” with the conclusion that eventually the signs and wonders will follow them, the delusion causes them to ” roam hither and thither.” I cannot express in words how thankful I am the God has saved me from this.

     That’s why when you ask yourself the questions like;  How can they possibly believe that crawling around on the floor barking like a dog, clucking like a chicken, roaring, or laughing, staggering like a drunken sailor, token on the Holy Ghost etc. gives glory to God almighty in any way shape or form? They look at you as if your some sort of freak for not understand that they have arrived, and automatically assume your envious of their supernatural/spiritual level.

     Usually their only answer, if any, may be that they don’t understand it either but that doesn’t mean it’s not from God. It has to be God, they’re in a church service, they seeking and praying for more etc. Sadly they are correct, it is from God, the strong delusion was sent by God because they would not receive the love of the truth.

     Going one step further in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;  4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” It turns into a vicious cycle, a never ending drunk in the spirit, slain in the spirit, bless me party; that so closely resembles the world that the only difference is the sign out in front of the building that says church instead of Bar.

     Were not just dealing with a misconception in the thinking process. There are demonic influences that are playing out here . The reality is to strive to have the Love of the Truth you must know that the truth is going to skin you alive, peel you like a banana, more often than not rub you raw. In our understanding we realize that the truth of God’s Word, uncompromised , unaltered or unchanged, is the only thing that leads us, grows us and delivers us. Love of the truth is keeping the Word pure and intact at all cost. Anything less is a lie.

     The turning away from the truth started when they could no longer endure sound doctrine. Yet, what is good and acceptable in the sight of God is that all men be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim 2:3-4). To endure truth is to hold up, or tolerate truth. It’s obvious that they can no longer stomach the truth so they seek out those who will give them what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear. What you end up with is a church full of people who are comfortable, listening to a comfortable speaker giving a comfortable message that contains no Bible doctrine. The focus in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 is on the inclinations of the audience rather than the evil intent of the false teachers. However, for error to thrive both sides of the transaction must assist each other. We live in a time of entertainment, and entertainers become celebrities. More people know more about Joyce Myers, Benny Hinn, Bill Johnson, C. Peter Wagner, Paul Crouch, and Todd Bently than they do Jesus Christ, and the sheep become the groupie’s. Apostasy is rebellion against the truth, add to that, the abandonment of the faith. It’s a revolt against truth and a defection from the faith once delivered to the saints. The allusion of apostasy is the insurrection to the authority of God. Apostasy enslaves people servants of sin where sound doctrine frees people to become employed to righteousness: (Rom. 6:17-18) “But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.” Proverbs 12:17 says: “He who speaks truth declares righteousness, but a false witness deceit.



Healing Rooms and Sozo ministries

Manifestation/Kundalini effects and complications

“A forced awakening that one’s mind and body is not prepared for is incredibly and majorly overwhelming, or even worse, a Kundalini eruption that is premature, ouch,  The danger in raising this energy in the first place is one thing for sure.  Your nervous system can become overloaded that you will feel like you are walking on the edge of a building, slipping in and out of sanity, for days, weeks, and even up to years. Breaks from reality and madness have occurred.  Forcing an awakening with even an experienced guru is not guaranteed you success of a trouble-free awakening.”

“As such, some practitioners believe it to be a case of kundalini energy in disarray. Over-zealous practitioners of Kundalini, Qigong or Buddhist meditation, without proper guidance or restraint, were observed to lose touch with reality.[77

Is it any wonder that the Healing Rooms and Sozo “ministries are flourishing in the Hyper/Chars mania world? The question has to be asked are these ministries creating more dysfunctions, psychosis, and illnesses within their own ranks? With an altered sense of reality, along with at times long term physical symptoms, is it any wonder that many caught up in these practices of “manifesting”; seem to be unreachable with a common sense approach to Biblical truths. Below is a list of some of the complications that arise from the “Kundalini awakening”

Mental Confusion

A forced Kundalini spiritual awakening can lead to a break with the real world, especially if the practitioner is not prepared for the power of meditation. Sometimes a hospital visit or other medical treatment is required to overcome the mental confusion.

Gastrointestinal Problems

Kundalini can cause problems with the gastrointestinal system because the awakening takes energy and enzymes from the digestive system to perform the metamorphosis. The immune system is not as available for digestion. The liver is stressed due to working harder to deal with the digestive upset and irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) can develop due to an overworked immune system and increased yeast growth.

Involuntary Movements

Involuntary body movements can occur during Kundalini meditation or later while the practitioner is resting or sleeping. The signs of this are sudden jerking, tremors and shaking. Some people have claimed that an inner force pushed their body into different postures. Movements have been misdiagnosed as epilepsy or restless leg syndrome (RLS

According to these fields of study the Kundalini-syndrome is of a different nature than a single Kundalini episode, such as a Kundalini-rising. The Kundalini-syndrome is a process that might unfold over several months, or even years. If the accompanying symptoms unfold in an intense manner—that de-stabilizes the person—the process is usually interpreted as a Spiritual Emergency (Grof & Grof, 1989; Lukoff, Lu & Turner, 1998).

Motor symptoms are thought to include tremors, shaking, spontaneous or involuntary body-movements and changes in respiratory function. Sensory symptoms are thought to include changes in body-temperature, a feeling of energy running along the spine or progressing upwards in the body, a feeling of electricity in the body, headache and pressure inside of the head, tingling, vibrations and gastro-intestinal problems. Cognitive and affective symptoms are thought to include psychological upheaval, stress, depression, hallucinations (inner visions or accoustical phenomena), depersonalization or de-realization, intense mood-swings, altered states of consciousness, but also moments of bliss and deep peace (Sannella, 1976; Greyson, 1993 & 2000; Greenwell, 1995; Scotton, 1996; Kason, 2000). Within the mentioned academic traditions this symptomatology is often referred to as the Physio-Kundalini syndrome (Sannella, 1976, Greyson 1993; 2000) or Kundalini-experience/awakening (Scotton, 1996; Lukoff, Lu & Turner, 1998). A roaring noise or other loud auditory hallucination have also been reported (perhaps related to the phenomenon of ‘Exploding head syndrome‘). Transpersonal literature emphasizes that this list of symptoms is not meant to be used as a tool for self-diagnosis. Any unusual or marked physical or mental symptom needs to be investigated by a qualified medical doctor (Kason, 2000).

Kundalini energy has also occasionally been abused by various gurus or spiritual teachers of various sects, usually by creating an unhealthy dependence of the disciples upon the guru for ‘energy treatments’. Shoko Asahara of Aum Shinrikyo infamy is an example of this pathological form of guru-disciple relationship maintained through abuse of Kundalini energy.

The philosopher Nietzsche may have also been the victim of a pathological form of kundalini awakening, leading to his breakdown and ‘insanity’, from which he never recovered.

While kundalini problems are not listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, through the efforts of David Lukoff, Francis G. Lu and Robert P. Turner, a new diagnostic category called “Religious or Spiritual Problem” was included in the fourth edition, DSM-IV published in 1994. This category was proposed to offset the tendency of mental health professionals to ignore or pathologize religious and spiritual issues brought into treatment.[74] While acknowledging the consensus within transpersonal psychology that kundalini awakening is a form of spiritual emergence or emergency and should not be diagnosed or treated as a mental disorder, some psychologists note it could precipitate forms of mental disorders or exacerbate preexisting conditions.[75]

DSM-IV does include in its “Glossary of culture-bound syndromes” the diagnostic category “Qi-gong Psychotic Reaction“, described as “an acute, time-limited episode characterized by disassociative, paranoid or other psychotic or non-psychotic symptoms[…] Especially vulnerable are individuals who become overly involved in the practice.”.[76] As such, some practitioners believe it to be a case of kundalini energy in disarray. Over-zealous practitioners of Kundalini, Qigong or Buddhist meditation, without proper guidance or restraint, were observed to lose touch with reality.[77

“Disturbingly, some peoples’ egos seem to expand along with their consciousness when they have what they consider to be an advanced Kundalini awakening. I was somewhat shocked when I first came across this, being of the mind that Kundalini would purify any blocks within people and fashion them into human beings equivalent to the Mother Teresas and the Dalai Lamas of this world. Not so; some of the poorest representations of spiritual growth gone wrong have been people with advanced Kundalini experiences, or alleged to be fully enlightened, some of the finest have been those with the most challenging and problem-ridden Kundalini awakenings.”

It’s clear from just the physical manifestations, that what is happening in the hyper/charismatic churches today are identical to the Kundalini awakenings that are happening in non-Christian cultic circles. Having read where even the gurus themselves that are leading these groups, who have spent most of their lives understanding and pursuing the Kundalini awakening have little if any means to assist or help someone who goes off the deep-end and.

This would beg the question of the absolute ignorance of the pastors, prophets, apostles etc. who are opening their church doors to something that they have NO knowledge of whatsoever and yet labeling it God. So how many pastors etc. do you know who are trained or have discernment in identifying when someone who is “manifesting” is in trouble???? All you hear them shout is “MORE LORD MORE”, rather a frightening thought isn’t it, when someone actually may be having a “spiritual emergency,” and someone is shouting MORE!!!!!!

I personally know and have heard from others who follow after these “manifestation” experiences, that for a period of time afterwards they experience jerking, shaking, body contortions, speaking difficulties etc. and sometimes these effects last for weeks. Those are JUST the physical.

What will be the outcome of the long term effects of “manifesting”? Most hyper/charismatic churches that I know of practice these manifestations every week, if not in ever service. Do they send them off to their Healing Rooms or Sozo’s? Where more of the same is practiced, so they get a double dose!!! There is so much more that can be said and studied that this article could go on forever.


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